Yatsugoume Conference

• Hachigome Meeting Presentation Manuscript

• Let’s classify later.

• Natsuno-san mentioned meeting someone from NicoNico with a smile.

  • Natsuno-san didn’t seem to be very comfortable with it.
  • In reality, the effect of mixing synchronous and pseudo-synchronous communication has not been proven yet.
    • Seeing Natsuno-san’s reaction makes me anxious.
    • Well, Natsuno-san may not necessarily be right, so let’s work hard to prove it.
      • This seems to be the key for the future.

• When reading other comments, I feel like I’m not being evaluated as much as others around me (emotionally), but I think it’s just because it’s my own perspective and it feels different from others (rationally).

• Opinions and insights (related to synchronicity)#kineto dialogue

  • The problem of the leading student not being able to see comments may be solved using the TENET method.

    • If there is a group of students who reverse playback from the end, the problem of the student who is leading the most not benefiting may be resolved.

    • When played back completely in reverse, you won’t understand anything, but if you divide it slide by slide and rearrange the order, there will be students moving from 1→2→3 and students moving from 3→2→1, and they will synchronously be able to see the chat in the end.

    • It may only be effective in content listing-type classes, but the idea of asynchronous ordering may be applicable somewhere.

      • From a Facebook comment.
    • (blu3mo) This reminds me of the conversation scene through glass in TENET.
      • Well, the conversation doesn’t actually happen there, haha.
      • Well, the concept can be useful, and it seems like it can be further developed to present a new form of semi-synchronicity.
  • Even if multiple classes take the same course at different times, they can still take the course pseudo-synchronously together.
  • (blu3mo) As a vision that combines synchronicity and pseudo-synchronicity, there may be a world where we don’t need to consciously think about whether it is synchronous or pseudo-synchronous.
    • By the way, what is the value of pseudo-synchronicity?
      • What is wrong with the discussion on Scrapbox?
    • Let’s think about it later.
      • Pseudo-synchronicity is essentially asynchronous, and if it’s just pseudo-synchronicity, it’s no different from asynchronous communication.
      • By mixing it with synchronicity, does pseudo-synchronicity also become synchronous?
        • No, well, this is no different from having a conversation on Scrapbox.
          • Shared documents mix asynchronous and synchronous communication.
          • In a way, it’s all synchronous?
            • You can have a conversation no matter where you look at the video.
            • The disadvantage is that it can spoil the surprise.
            • I want to come up with a new way of understanding synchronicity to explain this.
        • Hmm…
      • Maybe it’s about the sense of participation that was discussed in the Academic Fair?
      • And let’s not forget to consider the perspective of creating new classes that are born semi-synchronously, not just the traditional form of classes.
        • Like the TENET class (at the top of this page), or something similar to that.
        • Like NTT’s, it might be good to show the future of life.
      • It’s a way of perceiving that multiple conversations are happening concurrently.

• Opinions and insights (related to pen/communication)#kineto video notes

  • The relationship between comments also seems important.
    • Tree relationships can be created.
    • (blu3mo) This doesn’t seem to be directly related to the essence of synchronous students, so it can be left for later.
      • It’s like what was said in the Boost Meeting, you don’t have to catch everything in between.
  • The perspective of how existing communities (relationships) in schools are involved seems important.
  • There may be many cases where handwriting is not necessary, especially in universities.
    • In fields like information science, it doesn’t seem to be needed much, as long as you can type at the annotated position.
  • Handwriting was said to be good for inward communication.
    • #introversion Conference
    • There was a discussion about it being suitable for Japanese people.

• Opinions and insights (related to teachers)

  • The information itself that says it has stopped may be useful information for teachers.
    • I didn’t consider this perspective.
  • Presenting notes to teachers.- During the class, there was a discussion about how it would be helpful to understand things later, even if they were not presented during the class.

• Opinions and Knowledge (general)

  • Several people mentioned that interfaces are important.

  • Professor [@shiology] mentioned that it is good to have a teacher’s perspective with a fresh mind.

    • Having a model of what makes a good class.
    • While preserving the format of notes, maybe it is not necessary for them to be in video form?
      • Are the disadvantages greater than the benefits?
      • Creating space outside of the video where annotations can be made?
      • Also considering whether it should be handwritten or not.

  • I thought that I should be more proactive in moving my hands when it comes to interfaces.

    • The person with the hair iron mentioned that they are exploring various presentation methods, like the fish skewer gate.

  • Comments about the hair iron:

    • It’s very good that they are not trying to do anything overly advanced.

    • It’s very fitting that they try to solve things with a low-tech approach because their purpose is clear.

    • I also need to be careful not to try to do anything overly advanced.
    • Low-tech is fine.

  • I thought that I should write code properly and keep my hands moving.

    • I should resume the habit of committing code every day.

  • When it comes to the essence of sports in the context of the mistaken judgment system, or the essence of emojis in the context of emolingual, I thought it would be interesting to express essential, big goals, concepts, or visions.

    • I would like to discuss this with Professor Kiryu.

• Guest Presentation

  • It’s time to imagine the final form.

  • Let’s create something that I can use.

    • ≒ (nearly equal) something that I want.

  • It’s unrelated, but I thought that having a video editing UI in Kineto would be somewhat good.

  • Ontenna, xDiversity, Miraido-Kan, 2121, they all seem overwhelming.

  • Untrodden Advanced (people from Telorain)

    • In the advanced program, they emphasize thorough quantitative verification.
    • In contrast to the main Untrodden program, which focuses on MVP verification.
    • It’s interesting that there are people who finish their projects in Untrodden but then go on to spread their ideas.
      • (blu3mo) I also want to do that with Kineto in my third year of high school.
      • (blu3mo) On the other hand, it’s not necessarily required to spread the ideas during the Untrodden period.

• Other Projects

  • What would be the equivalent of emojis in sound?
    • Emolingual x Ontenna.

• Feedback

  • One of the essences of Untrodden is “deadlines” (by Tanaka, the project manager).
    • “Creators won’t work without deadlines.”
  • Let’s keep in mind what we want to achieve at the presentation meeting.
    • Maybe I should watch the usual videos when I’m mentally stable.
  • Let’s focus on both the long-term and short-term perspectives, at least alternating between them.
  • What we should refer to is “expert advice” and “amateur opinions”.
    • We don’t need to worry too much about “expert opinions” or “amateur advice”.
      • Expert opinions may deviate from common sense.
  • Let’s rely on other project managers as well.
  • Let’s try not to think “I wish I could have done more” after the presentation meeting.

• Social Gathering

  • The person who talked about the maze mentioned that it would be interesting because there is no existing example of it. It’s appreciated.
  • By conducting many experiments, we can eventually obtain knowledge that only we know in this field, and that’s when we feel amazed and impressed.
    • We can feel the essence of Untrodden, and that’s what makes it interesting.
  • (blu3mo) I see. I feel like I can see the future direction now.
    • There is a talk by Natsuno at the top, but even N Preparatory School may not have fully explored everything.
      • Especially since N Preparatory School already has existing examples from Nico Nico, there may not be much motivation to delve deeper.
    • I’m actually getting excited now.
  • In past cases, there were examples where there was little progress at the 8th station but it became amazing at the final presentation.
    • On the other hand, there were also cases where people became complacent at the 8th station.

• Shiozawa Sensei

• Rizumu-san

Untrodden 2020 §