Axes for immersion

(public) Title: Generalizing the Time Axis and Space Axis “Immersive Axes”

• It might be a bit excessive, but I’ll keep the idea.

  • #limitations of generalization

• People have a concept of a dominating immersive axis.

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  • By default, real-time and real-space are dominating.
  • AR, for example, has both virtual space and reality dominating to some extent.
  • VR has virtual space completely dominating.
  • The same can be said for time, for example, when immersed in a story, virtual time becomes dominating.
    • Sometimes it can be a mix of both.
  • Sense of Time Sharing is a means to enhance immersion.
  • Previously, it was thought that people were “alienated” from real-time and real-space.
  • Differences in the time axis:
    • ① Different time axes with the same experience, but with different speeds and movements.
      • Chronos vs Kairos, for example.
      • This is a matter of interpretation.
    • ② Different time axes with different experiences.
      • Real-time vs the time axis of a story, for example.
      • This is a matter of what they fundamentally are.
    • Are there any differences between these two?
      • For example, we now perceive time from a year ago as a different time axis, so it seems that there is no clear distinction between these two.
      • Do we need to perceive differences in speed and movement separately from differences in content?

Dialogue with Keicho about the space-time axis

• Immersive axes are characterized by placing oneself on the axis.

  • Is the self synonymous with perspective?
  • No, it includes input/output as well.

• How can axes be recognized?

  • They can be recognized by outputting from perspective to the axis and receiving specific input, thus sensing one’s own existence.

• As a related discussion to What Can Be Considered as a Timeline,

  • It might be possible to generalize various time axes and space axes and treat them together.
    • It would be interesting if we could reach the conclusion that the wall between the time axis and space axis is ambiguous.
    • As “axes” (countable, measurable entities).

• Various time axes:

  • Physical time
  • Chronos Time
  • Virtual Time
    • I wrote various things about Virtual Time.
    • Is it possible to consider non-Euclidean time?

• Various space axes:

  • x, y, z of the real world (Chronos Space) (Is it wrong to use the word “Chronos” here?)
  • Virtual space
    • x, y, z of the VR world
    • Space of (2D included) game worlds
    • Non-Euclidean spaces can also be considered.#euclidean space
      • https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/411192040/ This is interesting.
    • Worlds beyond the mirror
      • Non-Euclidean parts of the real world?
  • Can maps be considered as virtual space axes?
    • The sense of immersion is just lower compared to real space or VR.
    • Map apps provide more immersion than paper maps.

• Are there any other axes that can be discussed together?

  • For example, a number line?
    • Unlike the time axis and space axis, there is no sense of immersion, so it cannot be generalized with them.
  • The difference lies in whether the “self” can be felt.

• Immersion can be considered for each axis.

  • The sense of immersion in virtual space is as the words suggest.
  • The sense of immersion in virtual time is closely related to Sense of Time Sharing.
    • That seems to be the case.
  • It would be interesting if we could generalize the elements for immersion in the time axis and the space axis.
    • However, it feels like aiming for something meaningless.

• “Synchronization” can be defined between axes.

  • I wrote various things about the synchronization between time axes in Virtual Time.
  • Synchronization between the time axis and the space axis: Street View, for example.
  • Synchronization between space axes
    • Motion capture, for example.

• On the other hand, what is the difference between the time axis and the space axis?

  • Chronos time and Chronos space are completely different things.
    • Time is irreversible and always moving.- It would be a heavy topic of the Theory of time to discuss why we feel like time is always moving.

• However, if we expand the definitions of the time axis and the space axis, they may become indistinguishable.

• It would be interesting if that happened.

• (I will think about it later) (blu3mo)(blu3mo)(blu3mo)

• In the Chronos space, objects can be placed.

• What can be placed in Chronos time?

• Not material things.

• Examples include memories, events, music, words, and videos.

• These things are generally not perceivable in an instant, but can be understood when they become sequential data.

• It’s not necessarily true for all of them, as videos can stand alone as images.

• Also, they generally exist in conjunction with other axes.

• Videos are composed of the time axis and the spatial x-axis and y-axis.

• Sound (waves) is composed of the time axis and the spatial x-axis, y-axis, and possibly the z-axis.

• So, in response to the question “Q. What can be placed in Chronos time?”, the answer would be “A. Nothing can be placed in Chronos time; it exists in conjunction with other axes.”

• While the spatial axis can represent information on its own, the time axis cannot express itself without being combined with other axes. Why is that? (blu3mo)(blu3mo)(blu3mo)

• Time as a Medium also discusses a similar topic.

• It feels like it has a physics-like approach.

• Establishing a generalized definition and finding common laws.

• Similar to the concept of an x-t graph.

• The exchangeability of energy and mass.

• #influenced by something.

• Is there a discussion on the theory of time that takes into account virtual time?

• Theory of time

• The claim “Do not spatialize time” by Kuremu.

• https://www.amazon.co.jp/〈現在〉という謎-時間の空間化批判-森田-邦久/dp/4326102772

• I haven’t read the book.