Influencing the past from the future

• When thinking about virtual time, I often come across the barrier of Physical time.

  • It’s because we’re trying to eliminate the constraints of physical time in our experiences.

• I want to influence the past from the future of Physical time.

  • We need to reverse causality.
  • Specifically, I want to reverse the order of the experience where the influencer, through their free will, influences the influenced and the influenced receives the influence.
    • If we only care about the believability of either the influencer or the influenced, it’s easy.
      • Since we can freely fabricate the other side, it’s entirely possible to pretend that the causality has been reversed.
    • It becomes difficult when we care about both sides.

• What should we do?

  • First, let someone other than the original influencer (such as a machine or a third party) give the influenced an influence X.
  • Then, let the influencer, through their free will, give the influenced the influence X in the experience.
    • Make it seem like it’s their free will.

• Is it possible to do something like The Tight Game?

  • I want to try it with a magic trick where you choose a card.

• In an environment where an enormous amount of messages are flying around anonymously,

  • Let’s mix in some automatically generated messages.
  • If a sent message happens to be one that was automatically generated and sent from the past, it creates an experience of influencing the past from the future.

• This is challenging if the messages can be anything in natural language, but it should be easier in an environment with limited types of messages.

  • (axokxi) Like rock-paper-scissors.

  • For example, rock-paper-scissors seems to require sharing and synchronizing spacetime as a prerequisite, but it should be possible even asynchronously. I want to break it down and rethink it from that level.

  • @ssuge April 22, 2020

    • Interesting! (tkgshn)(tkgshn)(tkgshn)(tkgshn)

    • (/emoji/twitter) Space affects the quality of how we use time, but space is not essential. So, it’s better to abstract it to that extent and reconsider remote work and gathering.

    • @[100kw] April 22, 2020