Decision-Making Ignoring Frameworks

Discussion Extracts from February 10, 2023 §

• The discussion is above, but for now, I will extract my own thoughts (by blu3mo).

• I feel like I want to make life decisions without depending on a framework (by blu3mo).

  • Being a CS Major, the paths of “going into Industry” or “going into Academia” become visible.
    • I understand (natsuozawa)
      • This might actually limit people’s thoughts and preferences.
  • However, merely adhering to those two frameworks may not be the only means (by blu3mo).
    • There seem to be unlabeled choices.
    • For example, there is no vocabulary to describe tkgshn’s current way of living in one word.
      • “Concept Engineering” perhaps (tkgshn)
        • People can only think in artificial languages, not natural ones → Concept Engineering
        • [Engineering Concepts: Smartphone Apps vs. UNIX](https://scrapbox.io/ayu-mushi/概念をエンジニアリングする: スマフォアプリ vs. UNIX)
  • This is similar to what was written in Rebuilding the Basis of Common Sense and Making Choices.
    • If there is a better choice after rebuilding the foundation, I would like to choose that without worrying about the framework (by blu3mo).

• To be more specific (by blu3mo):

  • I want to research topics that interest me and produce results.
    • Normally, this would involve knocking on the door of a research lab, receiving guidance, writing papers, aiming for conference presentations, etc.
    • But is that the optimal solution? (by blu3mo)
  • There might be a way to become stronger and achieve results beyond this.
    • This is just a speculation, but as a way to step out of the framework:
      • Making a strong effort in networking and pushing to create an environment where multiple professors provide guidance.
      • Taking a break from studies to dedicate all resources to research.
      • Conversely, developing it as a business first and obtaining data that can only be obtained in that way.
    • Well, life offers various possibilities, so stepping off the narrow game seems to broaden the options.
    • +1 (kota-yata)
      • It’s obvious, but in society, the majority of people live within frameworks, so even if you step out of the framework, most of the people you deal with are likely to be those who view things within the framework.
      • Thinking this way, having achievements within a framework (like in Academia) might lay the groundwork for future social hacks.
        • #that’s true (tkgshn)

• In academia, you have to play the game of getting papers published, but in management, you can transcend that framework (tkgshn).

  • Not limited to “management” though (by blu3mo).
    • Various articles in this section probably discuss the idea that if you want to make decisions freely, Entrepreneurship/capitalist hack systems are useful.
  • If it is necessary to play that game, then it cannot be helped, but when you see someone like tkgshn, you start feeling that there might be more ways to hack society (by blu3mo).

• Regardless of the purpose you find in life, it seems that starting decision-making from scratch would likely help you achieve it (by blu3mo).

  • I think ochyai mentioned that earlier (by blu3mo).
    • Reference
  • For myself, maybe a way of living that clears the fog of the world? (by blu3mo)
  • There are parts I agree with and parts I don’t (natsuozawa).
    • Disagreement: I don’t think I would have reached my current position if I had started decision-making from scratch (natsuozawa).- +10 (tkgshn)

• It’s important to go along with other people’s decision-making, but when you strongly want to make decisions yourself, having an environment where others don’t interfere seems important, right? (natsuozawa)

• Ahh, that’s true indeed. (blu3mo)

  • That’s what being a World Line Full Stack Engineer is all about! (tkgshn)
  • Execution Power, Governance Technology (within a radius of a few centimeters?)
    • Isn’t it about Self-Efficacy? (tkgshn)
  • Well, consciously deciding to “go along with other people’s decision-making” seems different from just following along, right? (blu3mo)
    • I want to do Rebuilding the Basis of Common Sense and Making Choices (blu3mo)
  • This isn’t about employment status or business management; it’s about whether you are living actively or passively, isn’t it? (natsuozawa)
    • That’s right, or rather, I’ve always intended to talk about living actively (blu3mo)

/nishio/Nada2021Q&A

Q: When you have things you must do and things you want to do at the same time, how do you think one should go about trying to do what they want? A: First, is that “thing you must do” really something you “must” do? For example, “You must do your summer homework.” Is it really bad if you don’t do your summer homework? What specific bad things would happen? Going to college and “You must earn credits.” If you don’t earn credits, you can’t graduate. What’s the problem with not graduating? In other words, you value “graduating and obtaining a degree,” and you choose to take actions such as “earning credits” as components to achieve that. “You take actions to earn credits because you want to earn credits” should be the straightforward form, but sometimes there’s a misunderstanding that there’s an unconditional rule of “you must do it.” You come to high school because “you want to come to high school,” so if you don’t want to, you can skip high school and go to Sannomiya to sing karaoke. You might get caught, but it’s your freedom to do so. The future outcomes based on the choices of your actions are unknown. You might get caught, or you might not, your parents might get angry, or they might not. You have to accept the results of the choices you make. Seeing the fact that I skipped grades and went to graduate school, people mistakenly think, “You must have studied very seriously and had good grades.” In reality, I was in a situation where I was doing only what I wanted and not doing the “must-do” tasks, resulting in a lack of credits and facing the possibility of repeating a year, but the president of my part-time job told me, “You can enter graduate school without graduating from college. I think you should do that,” and I did it. (Note: This is another example of being informed by others about available choices.) That’s also life, your choices, not “must-do,” but whether you choose to “do” or “not do.”